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Brian Winslow

One of the key things that has stopped me from upgrading to modern Quicken was the lack of the old 'Quick Report' feature. It was like having FileMaker-grade 'Find' access to the underlying database. Has that re-appeared yet?

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Chris C.

I could forego the cloud and the security nightmare you refer to, if somebody (currently See or previously Quicken) would please just give me a fully integrated iOS app that I can sync/transfer to my home computer when I get back from a month on the road.

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James Gleason Pdf studio free download.

The show stopper for our household is the inability of Quicken 2016 to accurately reconcile your bank accounts (known, documented issue). We keep waiting for an update for fix this, but for now reconciliation just leaves you with numbers that don't add up.

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Rob Johnson

Regarding iBank and IGG, I have to second Constantin's comments. I've been frustrated by many simple UI bugs, inconsistencies and unnecessary mouse clicks for years. I've reported many and have yet to see even one be addressed in the 5 or so years I've been using it. When IGG introduced the iBank 5 release I installed the trial version only to find that every issue was still present and nothing noticeably new for how I use the software. Needless to say, I'm still using the older iBank 4 and hoping to find an alternative.

I started with Quicken and was glad to be rid of it at the time but now I may find myself putting it on the list of alternatives to check out.

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Rod Everett

I tried Quicken 2016 early this year and went back to Quicken 2007.

First, I had used Quicken on the Mac going back to 1991. Just hit me that I have nearly 25 years of data. There were too many oddities in the accounts in 2016. When I transferred data and went to compare balances between 2016 and 2007, many of the accounts were off by mostly minor amounts. Some long closed accounts were now showing a balance. I worked each account, fixing errors to reconcile all of them. Figured it was import oddities.

I decided to run 2007 and 2016 in parallel. Went to do my first regular, monthly reconcile of accounts. Found several active accounts that were off in 2016. Fixed several old, imported transactions which seemed to fix it. Then the second month the accounts were off again. A few more transactions that were ok the last time I reconciled were off, mainly dealing with payments/transfers from one account to another. Savings to Checking, paying the credit card, etc. The main one was my pay check. I have direct deposit with a fixed amount going into Checking and the rest going into Savings. The transaction is setup to be entered automatically. Each was correct when I checked it each pay period but when I went to reconcile at the end of the month it was like I had transferred the fixed amount from Savings to Checking and never deposited anything into Savings. Savings was way off. Other oddities in a couple of other accounts continue to happen too. 2007 has never had an issue like that. And it has continued to repeat itself each month with a need to fix a few transactions, some that I am sure I had to fix before.

I honestly don't trust Quicken 2016 right now. Not sure how long I will feel like double entry work but I will continue to run it in parallel for a while to see if updates correct the issue.

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Bill Schroeder

I 'upgraded' to Quicken 2016 because USAA told me 2007 was out of date and they were planning on dropping support. Update was fast painless until I opened 2016. I made double entries with slightly different names for many of my stocks and mutual funds. It still has no watch list of investments like 2007. It might look nice and do one checkbook. After 2 days of corruptness, I got my refund. Back on 2007 and holding my breath.

Earlier I tried Quicken Essentials and 2015. 2016 is no improvement over these that I also got a refund on. To me this was a revenue push by Intuit as they sold Quicken to another company.

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David Dvore

I've mentioned before that the best replacement for Quicken 2007 that I've found is MoneyDance. It's not perfect and not quite as polished, but has nearly all of the features of Q2007.

It did a good job of importing many years of Quicken data. It tracks investments. Not quite as good at reports, but all the essentials are there and can be exported to Excel. It does have some ability to drill down, i.e. if you click on a subtotal in a report, it will pull up the relevant transactions. Has much better search than Q2007 and allows non-contiguous multiple selection of transaction so you can batch change categories, tags (like Q2007's classes), etc.

There are some extensions available including one that imports PayPal transactions. I've had no trouble importing transactions directly from banks and investment firms, without having to pay for upgrades just to keep the same functionality. It's cross-platform if you need to run it on Windows and share data. It's worth checking out.

I have no affiliation. Just a satisfied customer.

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Davide Guarisco

If you happen to live in the Bay Area, the Silicon Valley Mac User Group (SVMUG)

http://www.svmug.org

this coming Monday will host a presentation
'Quicken For Mac: Past, Present and Future plus the mobile app!'

by two representatives from Quicken:
Jeff Parker: Director of Product Design, Quicken
Marcus Aiu: Product Manager, Quicken for Mac

Come with questions..

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MacInTouch Reader

In response to questions about See Finance, apparently the version I bought years ago doesn't go past Version 0.9.18 without a paid upgrade, so these findings are from that version.

I created a Transfer; it wrote both sides, but when deleting only deleted one side. Not something I use much because See Finance works with nearly all my finance accounts online.

I went to export a cash flow report; the choices are csv or pdf.

Not sure what the new 1.* versions offer.

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Robert Sorrels

In this entire discussion on Quicken and alternatives, I've not once heard AccountEdge mentioned. This is a superb program that does every thing that I (as a small business ownerm as opposed to an accountant) could require in a program. Reconciling, communicating in some manner with every bank/credit card I've dealt with, inventory, cost accounting, payroll, taxes, etc. It also has a very Mac-like interface.

This all with superb personal support. They offer a discounted yearly update program, but an existing program never 'dies' because you didn't pay up. Recently they introduced an 'AccountEdge Lite' - not the correct name - cheaper version aimed at personal or one person operations. I think it's about $100 while the full featured version is $300. Based on a number of years using it, I highly recommend it.

I always felt that Quicken was a Windows kluge foisted upon Mac users. Maybe that will change, but I'm not holding my breath.

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MacInTouch Reader

As I have in previous such discussions, let me recommend the Moneyworks line to your attention (cognito.co.nz).

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Doug Bradley

Q07 was a pretty mature product, with lots of microfeatures and interface tweaks that had come with many generations of user feedback and product development. Not everyone used every feature.

Q16 is a new product, a couple of generations old, like the early versions of Mac OS X that showed promise but weren’t as useful or user-friendly yet as the highly evolved Classic. Q16 doesn’t yet offer all the features of Q07, especially the more subtle ones.

I see Q16 moving forward in leaps and bounds, both as a development from Q15 and in the incremental Q16 updates that keep coming out. Many minor but very helpful features are being added, or re-added, or adjusted to be more useful. I have great optimism for some future version that will encompass all the features of Q07 and start adding even newer tools.

An easy example of a feature I use every day in Q07 that doesn't exist yet in Q16: Stock valuation. When I look at a company, I like to start with a five-year chart, with an index point of 0. Other people will have other preferences, for their own reasons. In Q07, which is built around the model of having many windows open with specific data in each, I open my Portfolio window and double-click on any security to see a chart of its price history over the past five years. I can change to look at a shorter or longer period if I want. A single click on a tab shows me the history of my transactions: When did I buy, at what price? When have I seen dividends, and in what amounts? Have there been stock splits? Return of capital? This is useful stuff. Q07 makes it immediately available.

In Q16, which is based on a model of putting all the data into a single window, there's not really a Portfolio window I can open. (That's a separate missing feature: My Portfolio window is highly customized, with exactly the columns I want, in the order I want them and the widths I want them, and it's available with a keystroke.) I can open a single brokerage account and see the securities in that account. If I click on one, it links me to a Safari window that includes a ton of information on the security, but no five-year chart. No way to adjust the index point on the chart. It's just a Web page. No detailed price history is stored in Quicken. There's no way to add prices.

Now let me chuck in a for-example that shows why this is unworkable for me, in any practical way. If I'm looking up IBM, and if I don't mind looking only at its one-year history, this sorta kinda might do. But what about specific warrants or closely-held stocks or preferred shares that aren't tracked by Quicken? In Q07, I enter their values manually, and I have many years' worth of prices to look back on. I can see how they have done under different market conditions. In Q16, all this is lost. There is no way to pull up a chart that shows how these securities have performed. In fact, there is no current pricing information on those securities. In many cases I'm talking about shares I buy and sell through a brokerage account. Pricing can be found other places. But Q16 gives me no way to track them.

In Q07, all my financial information can be in one place. In Q16, some hefty chunks are missing. It may/may not be fine as a check register. It makes available not quite enough market data to be useful. And in the end it leaves me needing multiple programs to handle what Q07 handled, deftly, under one roof.

Other pieces are still missing too. But that's one example of a deal breaker in the current product. As I said, I have optimism that the coders are working hard at building the missing pieces, so I can switch to the newer version. But for this longtime Q07 user, it's not ready yet.

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MacInTouch Reader

In # 225281 David Dvore recommends MoneyDance as a near replacement for Quicken Mac 2007.

I've been using MoneyDance on both Mac and Linux. It isn't Quicken, but is the best alternative I found, and I tried them all.

The biggest issue I've found in MoneyDance is check printing. Where Quicken always seamlessly printed checks (provided the right format of check stock was on hand), I spent most of an afternoon getting one MoneyDance account to sorta' successfully print a check that lined up. Then 'lost' all that work when, in another account, I needed to print a different format.

Turned out to be easier to use LibreOffice Calc to lay out check formats.

We don't print nearly as many checks at work as we did in the 'old days,' but there are times when we need to run twenty or more. No issue with Quicken, not a happy experience with MD.

Just FYI, Intuit killed QIF on Windows back in 2005(?). Because a lot of users needed/wanted to bring old data into newer Quickens without QIF, Quicken 2004 for Windows was used as a bridge. It was QIF capable, and could export files 'newer' Quicken could import.

Quicken 2004 for Windows is (at this posting) available as a free download here:

I've been running it on Wine in Linux; it might also work via Wine in Mac.

Why? To print checks in Linux. This is a workaround that the 'new Quicken' could kill off at any time. But apparently in Wine on Linux, it is possible to install and run the software without it successfully phoning home. Get your copy now if you have any thought you might want/need it.

In #225306 Davide Guarisco notified MacInTouch readers the SVMUG will host a presentation from Quicken

Monday, March 21, 2016 at 7:00PM. As always, meetings are open to the public and free to attend. Bring a friend! We are in our 'usual' room: BODEGA BAY TECH TALK ROOM at Google in Mountain View, CA.

I wish I could go!

Hopefully, Davide or someone else will report?

I listened to the YouTube Quicken announcement presentation linked by SVMUG: Focus on making Quicken for Windows work (I'm sure that will be appreciated by its users!), making Quicken for Mac more like the Windows version, and adding 'web features.'

What I'd like to know about the 'new Quicken' is if the 'team' plans to kill off QIF import/export without a replacement. That's an invaluable tool as I use Quicken (different users in different locations entering transactions I merge into a master summary file).

Of course, that's how I've avoided QuickBooks! And also what I've used to export data to test in alternatives to Quicken.

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Jack Kowitt

Rod, I had the same exact experience, even to running in parallel. Not that I used '16, but the first new release. I have downloaded '16 to give it a try to see if they corrected the balancing issues, but seems they haven't, so it goes in my junk folder. When I did try, and it failed I went to another app - sorry the name escapes me - but when '07 was fixed I gladly jumped back to it. To me, it's perfect and I can't imagine another way to do it. Like you, I have years of data in it and a change would have to be for some overpowering reason.

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Brad Hurley

I've trialed Moneydance several times over the years, most recently in January 2016. I agree that many people will find it a viable alternative to Quicken, and the interface has improved significantly since the last time I used it. Moneydance is a Java app and works on Mac, Windows, and Linux.

The main problem I have with Moneydance, Quicken, SEE Finance, Banktivity (formerly iBank), etc. is that they aren't really financial management apps; they're more accurately described as financial monitoring tools. They are mostly retrospective: they allow you to track your spending and generate reports on what you did, but are much less useful for looking ahead and planning how you will spend and save your money, meet financial goals, and even accomplish something as simple as ensuring you live within your means.

Quicken and Moneydance can project cash flow and they have rudimentary budgeting tools, but they're not very sophisticated for planning purposes. The budget tools in these apps assume your goal is to keep each month's expenses lower than that month's income, but that's not a useful way to approach it: it's entirely possible for a household's expenses to exceed income in more than half the months of the year even as its net worth grows for the year as a whole.

So far the most useful app I've found for money management is You Need a Budget, but YNAB recently switched to a subscription web-based app that currently lacks many of the features of the desktop version. I'm sticking with version 4 (the last desktop release), but am on the lookout for other apps that provide true zero-based envelope budgeting along with account and investment monitoring. Banktivity has introduced envelope budgeting, but it's not implemented very elegantly or intuitively.

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MacInTouch Reader

I've been using MoneyDance on both Mac and Linux. It isn't Quicken, but is the best alternative I found, and I tried them all. The biggest issue I've found in MoneyDance is check printing. Where Quicken always seamlessly printed checks (provided the right format of check stock was on hand), I spent most of an afternoon getting one MoneyDance account to sorta' successfully print a check that lined up. Then 'lost' all that work when, in another account, I needed to print a different format.

I would agree that MoneyDance is the best of the other choices. I even went back and tried GnuCash. The import from MoneyDance was terrible, and GnuCash didn't handle my mutual funds easily or correctly.

I have had good experience with MoneyDance printing checks. It took some time to set up, but it actually prints a personal size check spot on. I get those for free on my account type. No need to pay the high price for special checks. I don't have any experience with switching to another format. I did take screen shots of the settings for my personal checks.

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MacInTouch Reader

Posted by: Robert Sorrels in # 225332

In this entire discussion on Quicken and alternatives, I've not once heard AccountEdge mentioned.

I've tried AccountEdge and its predecessor MYOB, but not the new 'AccountEdge Basic' that's $100.

AccountEdge (MYOB) is a 'true' accounting program in the sense its default is to block editing past transactions and require they be reversed by Journal Voucher, leaving an audit trail.

My experience of it was much more like QuickBooks than Quicken.

When I tried it, what it did not do that is critical to my workflow is easily export transactions from one file to be imported into another. (Each user/location maintains separate local Quicken files I merge into a master summary).

That may have been changed? I found the old MYOB manual, which does discuss Import/Export, and MYOB didn't do the job.

Does the 'newest' AccountEdge (the one you're running, Robert?)

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Rod Everett

Doug,

I did find a way to add and maintain a price history in Q16. It isn't obvious, but is available.

Under Window, select Securities. This brings up a list of all the Securities that Q16 knows about. You can double click an individual one, which opens a window to let you edit a limited number of details. There is also a Price History 'tab' that shows the downloaded prices (for those that it can down load) and let's you add prices.

Would be much more intuitive if it were as simple as double clicking the security in the main window.

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MacInTouch Reader

Re:

Quicken and Moneydance can project cash flow and they have rudimentary budgeting tools, but they're not very sophisticated for planning purposes.

I found Quicken 2015's 'Bill Reminders' to be very helpful in planning. I have all my income and expenses entered, and Bill Reminders allows one to look ahead from 1 day to 12 months and it's quite easy to see the projected balance (on one or more accounts).

As I approached retirement I had a comprehensive spreadsheet that helped me plan, and Quicken 2015's data corroborated my spreadsheet and easily allowed me to make the decision to retire.

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Jerome Parmentier

Brad Hurley writes:

'So far the most useful app I've found for money management is You Need a Budget, but YNAB recently switched to a subscription web-based app that currently lacks many of the features of the desktop version. I'm sticking with version 4 (the last desktop release), but am on the lookout for other apps that provide true zero-based envelope budgeting along with account and investment monitoring. Stock + pro 2.7 download free version. Banktivity has introduced envelope budgeting, but it's not implemented very elegantly or intuitively.'

The master of envelope budgeting is Dave Ramsey. He has a very good tool for that process available on his web site, but it is cloud based. You can get it for free so long as you create and maintain your data and transaction information by hand. If you want it to sync with your [financial institution], then you would need to pay a subscription. The subscription is very reasonable, and Dave Ramsey claims that it is to reimburse his organization for the costs developing and maintaining the technology to connect with various online banking systems. For how little the subscription costs, I suspect that is absolutely true.

In theory you could set up an envelope-based budgeting system in Moneydance by creating separate accounts for each budget item you need to track. You would keep an actual account register for your bank records, but then use transfers to move funds from your bank account transaction record to the individual accounts that represent your budget line items. It would be very messy to reconcile with bank statements, since the transfers you do from your bank account to your budget accounts is not reflected by the bank, but it could work if you were willing to put in the effort to maintain it.

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Jon McIntosh

For me, Moneywell is the best envelope budgeting software out there for the Mac and iPad.

nothirst.com

(I have no commercial interest in this company)

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Brad Hurley

Jerome Parmentier mentioned Dave Ramsey's EveryDollar app as an alternative to YNAB for envelope budgeting, and proposed a workaround in Monedyance. Unfortunately the full version of EveryDollar is twice the price of online YNAB ($99/year vs. $45) and the free version of EveryDollar is very limited. In general I'm not a fan of online subscription-based software for managing my finances, as long as desktop versions are still available.

Moneydance actually offers an extension for envelope budgeting but I haven't been able to get it to work and the developers have stopped supporting it.

Like many people I never thought I could benefit from following a budget and it seemed like unnecessary drudgery, but YNAB's approach is more like a spending/saving plan than what most people think of when they think of the word 'budget.' The first step is to 'give every dollar a job,' which turns out to be very empowering, as it forces you to decide how you're going to spend or save all your income each month. Instead of setting limits on each category that you then consistently fail to meet because life has a way of foiling your predictions, YNAB makes it easy to adjust allocations while still staying within your overall monthly limit: each dollar still has a job and the number of dollars available is finite, but you're allowed and encouraged to shuffle those dollars among jobs in mid-course as the need arises. I manage large project budgets at work and we use the same approach.

I like zero-based envelope budgeting because it's the most proactive approach I've found to planning and managing my money. It puts me in the driver's seat: I have to think about how I'm going to spend or save money each month and set up the allocations (which takes about 10 minutes per month), and making adjustments throughout the month forces me to stay on top of things and make value decisions: if I went overbudget on food, where will I pull the money from? My vacation fund? It teaches you about opportunity costs in a very tangible way.

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Doug Bradley

Rod,

Many thanks (belated) for the tip on maintaining price history in Q16.

Peculiar experience: When I go to check the prices imported from my old Q07 file, I see that some securities with tickers that don't match anything Quicken recognizes (preferred shares, for example) retained the prices that I had entered manually over the years.

Other securities (some that have no ticker symbols, because they are part of private holdings) retained no price information. They have very specific values at different times, and it is valuable to me to be able to look at their performance across history.

Which leads to the next deficit: There is still no way to open a window that shows a graphical representation of an individual security's performance over time, customized as I prefer, changeable on the fly. For common issues, I can click a security name and link to its listing on a Quicken Web page, which does have a graph, non-customizable, but I pull up a better chart in Yahoo Finance or CNN/Money anyhow, and often with richer results. Also, for various purposes, I might well want a different style of price chart from the default -- candlestick, with volume, adjusted for stock splits, etc. And, again, I'd like to be able to see a chart with my manually entered values.

And while we're at it.. the old Q07 Portfolio window, extremely customizable, was a great dashboard larded with information I pick about the stocks I own or track. I have my Portfolio window personalized with the columns in a particular order, set to custom widths, and a particular set of columns that doesn't match any of Quicken's original generic templates. So for example I might look at Cost Basis, Gain/Loss (in $), Gain/Loss (in %), ROI (in %), Dividend Yield (%), Annual Dividend ($), and Industry Sector. Someone else will value a different set of numbers, and they can set up their Portfolio window accordingly.

The Portfolio window shows everything in one stroke: Every brokerage account I have, including cash totals available in each, and a Watch List at the bottom, for things I'm interested in for various reasons. It lists total value of each account, and I can change it to reflect account value and individual security information as of any given date by typing in the date I want to see at the top of the window and hitting the Tab key. This is super cool and useful. If I get a quarterly statement for a given account, I can compare it to Quicken records by simply typing in the date from the end of the quarter and checking to see whether the values in the statement match what's in Quicken.

Nothing like this, as far as I can see, is in Q16, yet.

Hoping to see it all added back, in some form or other, in Q17 (or Q16 Mark II or whatever -- I know the updates and improvements have been constant).

The Quicken team is getting back in gear; it's great to see the results. They are getting within striking distance of a product that matches the value of the old Quicken. I totally get that the legacy code all had to be scrapped, and they are rebuilding from the ground up. That doesn't happen in a day. And, for the record, I paid for Q16, because I really want them to have the financial support that it will take to put this tool back in action.

But I'm not yet at a point where I can switch to the new version and not lose capabilities that I use on a daily, monthly, quarterly basis.

Wishing the very best for the Quicken team, and hoping the coding goes smoothly and quickly!

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Bill Calamita

Haven't seen this posted. Big update to Quicken 2016..

From the developers..

2 Brand New Features

Version 3.3 is a really exciting release. We're releasing 2 major top requested features, a big bill pay improvement and lots and lots of great bug fixes.

New: 12-Month Budgets
Plan your spending to achieve the goals important to you (e.g., vacation, car, new home, retirement).
Now customize your budget with one-time-only, periodic and recurring monthly expenses.
Easily track spending and income against your plan to stay on target.
New: Portfolio Time Machine (As Of Date)
See the historical value of your portfolio and individual holdings at a particular point in time.
Track your investment performance over the past days, weeks, or years.
Gain deeper learning and insights for future investing.
Big and Small Improvements

Improvement: You can now set up bill reminders and create Online Bill Pay transactions. This wasn't supported before. (Thanks to hfm and our other bill pay customers for finding and reporting this issue).
Improvement: Added a today button to the calendar picker and updated the look.
Improvement: Fixed an issue where some date fields were too narrow for Canadian date format.
Improvement: Increased the number of places today's gain/loss number could be. This will help our wealthiest customers.
Improved Stability

Bug Fix: Fixed an auto-matching issue that would pick the wrong manually entered transaction after downloading bank information if there was a similar older transaction. (Thanks to Pearl who went out of her way to work with us to solve the issue).
Bug Fix: Fixed an issue where categories weren't being saved if the transaction was edited in the All Accounts view.
Bug Fix: Fixed an issue where transactions were not being auto-categorized for some Direct Connect accounts.
Bug Fix: Fixed an issue where scrolling would break and 2 arrows would appear if opening a register drop down at the bottom of the screen.
Bug Fix: Fixed an issue where the change PIN dialog wouldn't appear even after the financial institution notified Quicken to display the dialog.
Bug Fix: Fixed a weird scrolling anomaly where the toolbar appears over the latest transaction when sorted in ascending order.
Crash: Fixed the #1 crash in 3.2.1 which could occur when tabbing in and out of the Tag field.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur when updating a Direct Connect account.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur when editing a security name in the securities list.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur when enabling and disabling alerts.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur when opening and closing the Account Setup screen multiple times from different locations.
Bug Fixes in 3.3.1

Bug Fix: Fixed a calendar issue where the date didn't get set when manually adding a price history in the security window.
Crash: Fixed a crash that occurred when expanding and collapsing categories in the setup window when editing a budget number.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur if you delete a custom category while editing the budget.
Crash: Fixed a crash that could occur in the security window when editing bond information.

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MacInTouch Reader

Well not such a good experience here. Yesterday after nearly three hours on the phone with tech support, I was still unable to login using (as requested) my Intuit ID. The login is required in order to access bank downloads.
I was asked to send in some logs. They said this is a problem with some Mac installs.
I haven't used Quicken for about 10 days. All was well then. Anyone else having this issue? Any solutions offered?

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Dennis Womack

Yep. Same problem here. Quicken for Mac 2015. Latest version.

Last worked on May 7.

Since then it is asking for login and password. I have updated the creds at the Intuit site.

Didn't Intuit sell Quicken?

When they started rolling out Quicken for Mac 2016 I was besieged with emails wanting me to upgrade to 2016.

This is at least the 2nd time I have had problems with this turkey.

I downloaded See Finance and messed with it but ended up upgrading Quicken. This happened exactly 1 year ago. I think it is part of the plan to force you to upgrade.

Not a happy camper!

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Ben Levi

I, too, started having problems with my Quicken 2015 transaction downloading, even after the latest update this morning. A call to tech support ended up exporting all of my data (10 years worth) and importing it into a brand new file, which seemed to do the trick. It was actually very quick to do, so it may solve some of your problems as well.

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H Thorpe

Quicken 2015 working fine on multiple checking, charge cards, and other bank accounts. Running MacOS 10.8.5. What OS are you using?

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Dennis Womack

I purchased See Finance in the App Store and am in the process of migrating to it.

Quicken for Mac 2015 was updated this morning to the next version.

Magically my problems went away.

Enough is enough.

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Franklin Tessler

With apologies to James Bond, never say never again..

My financial application needs are modest: I manage a bank account, several credit card accounts, and a couple of loans. (I track investments elsewhere.) In-app bill pay and automatic transaction download are essential.

I used Quicken for well over a decade until the 2007 app began to fail in various respects. Since then, I've used Moneydance and Banktivity (formerly iBank), but neither was as functional as Quicken 2007. I even gave Quicken 2015 a shot, but it didn't support bill pay. I swore that I'd never go back to Intuit.

A few weeks ago, bill pay in Banktivity stopped working. The fix ultimately required an account reset by my bank, but while I was investigating solutions I decided to try Quicken 2016 in desperation. Surprisingly, it imported all the data that I had exported from Banktivity, with very little cleanup needed. Setting up transaction download and bill pay was also much easier than expected. I've found that bill pay works more smoothly than in any other app I've used, including Quicken 2007.

I've experienced only a couple of glitches, including temporary failure of bank account downloads two mornings this past week; downloads resumed later the same day in both cases.

Quicken 2016 is far from perfect. Reporting needs considerable work to bring it up to par with the old version, there are aspects of the register display that I don't like, and the requirement for an Intuit ID is bothersome. As well, the recent sale of Quicken to H.I.G. Capital is an unknown, despite their promise to invest in the product. The new Quicken team has a long way to go to restore confidence. I'm hoping that they can be successful.

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MacInTouch Reader

As the original poster about the recent hanging login sequence in Quicken 2015, I want to report that the latest update (2.8.7) seems to resolve the problem. This issue affected some Mavericks users. The problem was impossible to solve by copying into a new file since that would also hang at the 'log in with your Intuit ID' when you attempted to update bank data.

Here is the latest entry on the related Quicken help page:

UPDATE 5/13/16: RESOLVED (again).
We have implemented a fix in Quicken Mac 2015 update v2.8.7, now available to all Quicken Mac 2015 users.
Those who are on OS 10.9 may receive a special pop-up alert advising them to update to this release to resolve the 'never-ending login' issue.
Thank you for your patience while we resolved this issue for all of our Quicken Mac customers.'

Many other issues were also addressed in this update, but this was the big one for me.

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Michael Schmitt

Intuit just released a minor update to Quicken 2007 (to v16.2.4), which contains a link to an Update on Quicken for Mac 2007 Support Policies

It says that when a 'robust' Quicken for Mac 2017 is released later this year, they will be ending support of Quicken for Mac 2007.

Also, they warn that while you can keep using Q2007, it 'may stop working if Apple removes legacy technology, which Apple has warned will happen in a future version of Mac OS X'.

I wonder which legacy technology that is? I have to think that whatever they're talking about would affect more than just Quicken.

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Scott Austin

I just opened Quicken 2007 and received an update to version 16.2.4, so small fixes are still being made to this 10-year-old version of Quicken by the new owner. Notably this is reported to fix a crash that could occur if importing investment price history larger than 2K, which has been discussed here on MacInTouch. Full release notes here.

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Jeff H

The big question for Quicken 2017 is exactly how 'robust' it will be. So far, by all accounts I have seen, Intuit has made only incremental progress. We can hope the coming split from Intuit will help achieve that.

By the way, the web site linked from the previous post notes

'We expect to release one final update to Quicken for Mac 2007 because of small changes required due to the separation of Quicken from Intuit.'

I suspect that may be to properly handle online services that had been going to Intuit sites.

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Brian S

I wonder which legacy technology that is? I have to think that whatever they're talking about would affect more than just Quicken

My guess is this refers to Apple's Carbon frameworks. Apple stopped their effort to convert it to 64-bit long ago, so any app using Carbon is effectively 32-bit only (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, if that were the only issue ). Maybe someone can check Activity Monitor while Quicken 7 is running to confirm it runs in 32-bit mode.
It is difficult for developers to enhance Carbon-based apps because Apple does not enhance Carbon (as they do with Cocoa, i.e. AppKit and Foundation) with the latest user interface widgets. The good news is Apple (AFAIK) owns Carbon (compare to Rosetta, which was essentially a lease agreement), so their decision to continue shipping with the OS won't be influenced by external business agreements.

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Jeff Stearns

Michael Schmitt writes:

Also, they [Intuit] warn that while you can keep using Q2007, it 'may stop working if Apple removes legacy technology, which Apple has warned will happen in a future version of Mac OS X'.I wonder which legacy technology that is? I have to think that whatever they're talking about would affect more than just Quicken.

Quicken 2007 uses several Carbon libraries. Apple considers them to be legacy technology.

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MacInTouch Reader

Regarding Quicken 2007, Jeff Stearns points out its dependency upon Carbon libraries that are considered 'legacy technology.'

I agree with Michael Schmitt's concern that Quicken 2007 is probably not the only Carbon-dependent application that is still relatively widely used. I'd be interested to learn what the MacInTouch readership knows about particular products. Is there an up-to-date compilation somewhere on the web?

A related question: Aside from Carbon libraries, what other fairly fundamental parts of Mac OS X does Apple consider to be 'legacy technology'? (The Sierra announcement puts AFP = Apple Filesharing Protocol into that category.)